Joker was envisioned as a stand-alone story a couple of failed slapstick comedian who descends into a lifetime of crime and chaos in Gotham Metropolis. However upon its launch in 2019, it grew to become the primary R-rated film to gross greater than $1 billion on the field workplace, in addition to essentially the most adorned comedian e book film ever made, by advantage of 11 Oscar nominations (together with two wins) and the distinguished Golden Lion award on the Venice Worldwide Movie Competition. No matter what you consider the divisive, controversial movie, Jokerwas a shocking success for Warner Bros. Footage and the DC Comics model.
Given all of the rewards reaped from a film that value solely $55 million to make, a sequel was maybe all the time inevitable—and Jokerstar Joaquin Phoenix and director Todd Phillips have been each on board for it. However how do you construct on a movie that succeeded thanks largely to its factor of shock?
“The query grew to become, ‘How can we high ourselves?’” Phillips advised Selection in August. “And you may solely do this when you do one thing harmful. However there have been days on set the place you’d go searching and suppose, ‘Holy fucking shit! What did we do?’”
Phillips’s “harmful” follow-up, Joker: Folie à Deux, has been virtually as exceptional a failure as its predecessor was a hit. The Jokersequel, which was launched on Friday, earned simply $40 million within the U.S. over its opening weekend, nicely beneath projections of $50 to $65 million and fewer than half of what Jokergrossed in its huge $96 million opening debut 5 years in the past. Worse nonetheless, Folie à Deuxreportedly had a funds of $200 million, with Phoenix, costar Woman Gaga, and Phillips alone costing the studio greater than $50 million, based on Puck’s Matthew Belloni. The movie sports activities a putrid critics’ rating of 33 p.c on Rotten Tomatoes, and it grew to become the primary Hollywood comedian e book film ever to earn a “D” CinemaScore from audiences.
Though Folie à Deuxopened larger abroad, its bloated funds leaves it with lotsof floor to make up in an effort to break even, and phrase of mouth gained’t be variety to it. The Jokersequel will virtually actually go down as a colossal flop. And now that Phillips has confirmed {that a} third installment gained’t be occurring, the Jokerfranchise is coming to a bitter finish. Contemplating all of the controversy and hysteria that surrounded Joker’s launch in 2019, and the divergent receptions the movie and its sequel obtained, the franchise will certainly depart behind a sophisticated legacy. Collectively, the 2 Jokermovies—together with HBO’s The Penguin—present the chance and reward of DC Studios’ new Elseworlds method, with Folie à Deuxnow elevating loads of questions for the corporate as DC Studios cohead James Gunn continues to map out its new period of leisure.
Folie à Deuxhas arrived throughout a vital transition interval for Warner Bros. and DC Studios, as Gunn and cohead Peter Safran try and revive the DC model after the messy Snyderverse period. The brand new DCU will launch when the animated sequence Creature Commandos premieres in December, with Gunn’s Supermanfollowing subsequent summer time as the primary live-action movie. When Gunn and Safran showcased what the subsequent era of DC movies and TV exhibits would appear to be in January 2023, they mentioned the dearth of group in DC’s earlier period and the way they deliberate to do issues in a different way, similar to by branding tasks that fall exterior DC’s foremost continuity as “Elseworlds” tales.
“The DCU’s a multiverse, however we’re going to be specializing in one universe from that multiverse,” Safran defined. “And if one thing isn’t DCU, we’re going to make that very clear. So, strictly grownup fare like Todd Phillips’s Joker, or children animation like Teen Titans Go!, we’re going to make it very clear that these are DC Elseworlds, simply the identical approach that they do it within the comedian books.”
The Elseworlds premise does certainly have a wealthy historical past within the comics, the place it offers free rein to writers and artists to reimagine DC’s iconic characters in daring new methods, similar to a model of Batman who fights Jack the Ripper in a Victorian-era Gotham or a model of Superman who grows up in Communist Russia as an alternative of Smallville. Whereas making use of this idea to movie and TV sounds good in concept, the brand new Elseworlds branding has been something however clear.
Though Folie à Deux was beforehand described as being one of many first Elseworlds tasks, the movie doesn’t even function the DC Studios brand in its opening credit, not to mention any Elseworlds signage. And that’s as a result of DC Studios had no direct influence on the movie, based on Phillips at a prescreening Q&A in September. “With all due respect to [Gunn and Safran],” the director mentioned, “that is type of a Warner Brothers film, and that’s them additionally wanting it to be like, ‘OK, Todd did his factor. Let Todd proceed to do his factor.’”
Gunn additionally distanced DC Studios from any involvement in Folie à Deux, telling followers on Threads that “it’s not a DC Studios movie,” along with his earlier feedback about how the brand new DCU Elseworlds intro “gained’t debut till the movies we’ve labored on.” It’s all fairly complicated and dissonant with every thing the brand new DC Studios heads beforehand mentioned about how issues could be extra organized below their management. Then again, contemplating simply how badly Folie à Deux is performing up to now, it might be a great factor for Gunn and Co. to have the ability to pin this entire mess on Warner Bros. and protect their new Elseworlds and DC Studios branding for their very own tasks.
Regardless of how Jokerand Folie à Deux have been formally labeled by Warner Bros. and DC, these movies nonetheless epitomize the brand new Elseworlds method that the studio has been counting on till Gunn’s new cinematic universe lastly will get underway. Elseworlds motion pictures and TV exhibits are designed to permit particular person filmmakers better artistic management to carry their very own visions of DC characters and tales to life, with out the studio having to fret about how these releases have an effect on the interconnected universe being constructed within the new DCU. And whereas I used to be not a fan of it, Jokeris undeniably probably the most profitable—and worthwhile—comedian e book motion pictures ever made, largely because of the freedom Phillips was given.
Jokerwas impressed by ’70s and ’80s crime dramas, significantly Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driverand The King of Comedy, and it subverts a lot of what we’ve come to count on from tasks based mostly on superhero IP. Its connections to Gotham Metropolis and its notorious Clown Prince of Crime are nominal. The 2019 movie’s most direct references to the principle Batman mythology come by means of its incorporation of the Wayne household, most notably when Arthur Fleck travels to Wayne Manor and encounters a younger Bruce Wayne. The assembly between the longer term archenemies was complicated on the time of Joker’s launch and has turn into all of the extra complicated in hindsight. In a current interview with IGN, Phillips tried to clear up any lingering questions concerning the scene:
One of many issues that individuals by no means understood concerning the first film was, “I don’t get it. He visits Bruce Wayne and he’s 30 years older than Bruce Wayne. What sort of geriatric Joker goes to combat sooner or later?” I don’t know when you’ve ever noticed [sic] the script of the primary film. The primary movie known as Joker. It’s not known as “The Joker,” it’s known as Joker. And the primary movie below the script all the time mentioned “An origin story.” By no means mentioned the origin story. It was this concept that possibly this isn’t the Joker. Perhaps that is the inspiration for the Joker. So, in essence on the finish of this film, the factor you’re being left with is “Wait, what’s that factor occurring behind him? Is that the man?”
That every one sounds a bitextra like an admission of low cost advertising and marketing ways to mislead DC followers than any kind of intelligent artistic conceit, however Folie à Deux does illustrate the director’s clear choice to stray from the Batman mythology—and, extra importantly, the Joker mythology—in his movies as a lot as attainable. The Jokersequel equally has just a few tenuous connections to the world of the Caped Crusader: Assistant district legal professional Harvey Dent (Harry Lawtey) seems reverse Arthur in courtroom because the lead prosecutor within the latter’s legal trial, and his face will get partially burned by the top of the film in reference to his future as Two-Face; Woman Gaga’s Harley Quinn, who’s known as Lee Quinzel, has been largely reimagined to be extra grounded to suit into Phillips’s model of Gotham; and Wayne Tower is proven in passing at one level, however Bruce is nowhere to be seen after the homicide of his dad and mom on the finish of the primary movie.
Crucially, Folie à Deuxadditionally eliminates any chance that Arthur will ever turn into the legal mastermind Batman has fought within the comics and on-screen for many years. On the climax of the movie, a wavering Arthur Fleck—his face caked in clown make-up as he represents himself in courtroom—confesses that there isn’t any Joker responsible his crimes on, solely himself. The scene looks like a direct try by Phillips, maybe disillusioned by all these viewers who misunderstood his unique movie (and the semantics of its advertising and marketing), to set the file straight that Arthur isn’t theJoker, just a few messed-up man whose 5 minutes of fame finish with him getting shanked in jail.
Jokertranscended the problems of its complicated connection to Batman lore and its flouting of the viewers’s expectations for the Joker character, however Folie à Deux is simply an excessive amount of of a large number to beat these questions. The choice to show this sequel right into a musical-slash-courtroom-drama is baffling, particularly contemplating that the movie adopted Hollywood’s weird pattern of hiding the truth that it was a musical in its trailers. It seems like Warner Bros. gave Phillips much more artistic management on this film after the success of Joker, and, based on Belloni in a current Puck publication, the studio didn’t even check display screen Folie à Deux to get viewers suggestions earlier than Phillips locked the movie. As Phillips advised Selection, “the objective of this film is to make it really feel prefer it was made by loopy folks; the inmates are operating the asylum.” In gentle of the ultimate consequence, Warner may need afforded Phillips an excessive amount of artistic management this time round.
At the same time as Folie à Deuxstruggles out of the gate, HBO’s The Penguin has been greeted by glowing opinions and robust viewership numbers after taking a extra standard but nonetheless distinct method with one other infamous Batman villain. The sequence, a derivative of Matt Reeves’s The Batman, is in an identical place as a considerably unofficial Elseworlds undertaking, besides the TV present truly flashes the new DC Studios brand on the finish of its episodes.
Reeves, who serves as an government producer on showrunner Lauren LeFranc’s sequence, has had a number of success within the creation of his personal Batverse. And the timing of The Batman franchise’s improvement, between the Snyderverse period and Gunn’s new DCU, has led to its retroactive designation as Elseworlds out of necessity greater than anything. Gunn has his personal plans for Batman (and Robin) in his interconnected universe, so separating Reeves’s tales into their very own universe permits each to exist in tandem. With The Batman Half II scheduled for October 2, 2026, nicely into the brand new DC Studios period, Reeves’s follow-up will presumably be the primary movie to boast extra clearly outlined Elseworlds branding. The Superman film from Ta-Nehisi Coates and J.J. Abrams that’s lengthy been within the works would, too, if it ever will get made.
(It’s additionally attainable that ongoing TV exhibits that predate Gunn and Safran’s hiring, similar to Teen Titans Go!or Harley Quinn, might be relabeled as Elseworlds releases earlier than then, when DC Studios ultimately decides to tell apart these universes from each other extra clearly, as promised.)
The Penguin, as an extension of The Batman, appears to exist exterior the upcoming DCU as a strategic determination, to provide Gunn the house to make even extra Batman. Even so, the sequence looks like an instance of what profitable Elseworlds tasks might be. Whereas the present builds on the occasions of Reeves’s 2022 movie, it’s actually against the law drama that goals to be extra like The Sopranosthan a conventional superhero story. By centering its narrative on the likes of the Penguin and Sofia Falcone, the sequence is setting apart Gotham’s typical protagonist to develop these “villains” into extra nuanced and dynamic characters.
The Batman, The Penguin, and Joker are wins for DC—though solely the primary of these was actually recognizable as DC IP—however Folie à Deux’s efficiency is extra harking back to the leftover movies from the earlier DC Movies regime, like 2023’s The Flashand Aquaman and the Misplaced Kingdom. All in all, this transition part has been expensive and very inconsistent for a studio that’s determined to maneuver on from its period of costly, uneven releases. The model continues to be broken by releases like Folie à Deux, and the common client could not even discover that the brand new DC Studios interval has begun till the Elseworlds designation is utilized extra coherently.
Whereas the trail to a clear, studio-wide reboot will get extra sophisticated, the success of Joker, The Batman, and The Penguin—together with the failure of Folie à Deux—has given Gunn and Safran a lot to consider as DC Elseworlds turns into a much bigger element of their wider launch technique and so they work with new filmmakers who’ve distinctive concepts. On the very least, it’s most likely protected to say that we gained’t be seeing too many different superhero-musical-courtroom-dramas on this universe or some other within the years to return.